IN large part, elitist breeders (mostly show dog people)– are to blame, because they keep using the word “p***ymill” as if was an actual WORD.
By blaming breeders, instead of trying to concentrate on the FACTS and LIES promoted, they helped people to hate ALL breeders. (Don’t get us wrong, to have show dogs and show them coast to coast is extraordinarily expensive. $100k and higher is pretty common.) But when ARs got APHIS rules changed, breeders everywhere should have instantly known that ALL BREEDERS better group together–and since USDA breeders are in the minority, ALL other breeders which were not USDA should have gathered together with good USDA breeders and worked toward unity. INSTEAD, show breeders did the opposite, and so did hobby breeders–not all but many of them………..
Breeders should come out, band together, and use PIJAC/or other groups to bind them all together, not denigrate different breeders. Unfortunately, now the word “breeder” could be put on a hate list thanks to the AR groups.
Why? Because it implicates that breeding is done solely to gain money in a commercial transaction. WELL— what’s wrong with gaining $$???
~~~AR Non profits gain $$ every second !!! ~~~
All they do 24/hr day– is to make their pitch for $$,
donations, and more $$??? They pay NO taxes.
So what do they actually contribute? NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mills or those animals raised in larger kennels/or under USDA, are not necessarily BAD.
JUST because they are not in someone’s living room underfoot, with winning lineage, and dog parents that cost $5-$60,000, don’t mean automatically that such dogs really suck, or that they are all sick. Further, there is very little proof that such puppies raised by breeder dogs cannot be good pets for people. Oh sure, they CLAIM the dogs aren’t this or that, but for the numbers sold in the USA, we dare anyone to prove that a disproportionate number of them are provably any worse than an average dog, or even a SHELTER dog.
FURTHER, almost NO dogs in shelters come from USDA litters. AND since shelters don’t have the ability to trace their own background intake of dogs [they can’t make the donator prove anything] —they don’t even know where the dogs came from AND for that matter–the USA doesn’t even KNOW how many animal shelters EXIST in the USA and they certainly don’t know how many RESCUES exist either.
Therefore, to prove anything about alleged ‘large kennel born’ dogs having such and such behaviors is very difficult. We are aware of 1-2 studies and one did involve about 1,000 dogs, BUT that only included the BREEDING animals (they were not being sold as puppies.) This wasn’t testing of puppies. The breeding stock would not be highly socialized since the humans are not trying to make them into pets? IN other words, the breeding stock is used for breeding, not as a pet. Socializing pets is done because it’s going to live with people so to do that, they usually need to be social to some extent. The only way the breeding stock is sold is when they are auctioned off after a number of years, such as when the Bishon sellers out of Oaklahoma buy them to re-sell them. Yes, those Bichon sellers are NON PROFIT.
Also see http://www.naiaonline.org/about-us/position-statements/dogs/ (Links to the AWA and AWA regulations can be found at the APHIS publications page found here) “The entire commercial dog breeding industry and even hobbyists are tainted by the existence of substandard kennels. Anti-breeding zealots find kennels with squalid conditions, get the media interested, and paint all commercial breeders and pet stores that buy from commercial kennels with the same brush in press releases, articles, and fund-raising campaigns.”
“Anti mill campaigns target all commercial breeders regardless of their standards. They use the existence of such kennels to promote mandatory spay and neuter bills and other anti-breeder legislation. They also use these campaigns to promote shelter dogs instead of well-bred and well-socialized puppies.” At this point, even IF there are not-so-good breeders–does that necessarily mean that obtaining a “rescued” dog is somehow a much better bargain??? Hardly. That just shows the most people know ZERO ABOUT RESCUING DOGS!! ((As long stated, we HAVE much experience in rescued dogs because we have already done it–for years–and found out exactly what AR rescuers were doing!!))
LOL ARs will do anything to try and make us think
that shelter animals are the bees knees deal. Hardly.
Most drop offs are not done by great owners, most owners will only use SHELTERS as a last resort. and the highest shelter populations are in the lowest income areas???….particularly in California? There are few to no shelters in wealthy areas, and if there are, they have few and no dogs!! THEY WILL ALMOST NEVER EVER HAVE PUPPIES EITHER, AND IF THEY DO, SO MANY PEOPLE WANT THEM THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN AUCTION. …and most re-homed animals should not cost over $195 since shelter animals are about $150. IF a rescue tries to sell YOU a dog over $200–RUN!!! You might as well buy a puppy for $150.
These facts are true:
Most people know nothing about breeding of dogs.
Most people don’t want to pay very much for dogs.
Most people like small fluffy puppies/dogs.
Smaller dogs are favored over larger dogs and smaller dogs sell quickly.
Designer dogs (mutts) SELL VERY WELL and no one cares really….
Most people want a puppy.
Most people don’t have a clue on how to train puppies. or their kids on how to treat puppies!!
All “rescue” dogs sold in California are TAXABLE EVENTS if not a 501(c)(3) group
Any dog where the background is NEVER known, and the dog has not been temperament tested professionally (and by that we MEAN professionally, not any old shelter worker)– is a crap shoot. If very small, not that dangerous BUT if medium to larger dog–can be very dangerous.
Almost NO rescues have any professional testing, behaviorists, or anything of the sort. They seldom know much about dogs actually. If they have too many larger dogs–beware. If they try and pitch dogs with 3 legs, 1 eye, ones that have legendarily expensive medical histories, and diseases–don’t buy such a dog unless you plan to spend thousands of bucks on that same dog. Diseases that cost huge medical expense, same thing.
Stories of “rescuers” having 5 or 10 large breed dogs all in one room while “babysitting” them and then being killed by the dogs?? Or even having 4 large dogs in the backyard which then kill the OWNER??? Or one rescuer with much dog experience but not enough common sense, takes very ill dog to “rehome” and it almost killed her in the kennel–her throat slashed (vocal cords severed), one arm almost bitten off, one leg severely mauled, she managed to call 911, she survived and never did rescue again and moved out of state. Sad but could have been EASILY AVOIDED– do not take sick or damaged dogs or dogs that have been fighting with other dogs.
The guy in the Bay area that put 3—alleged pitbull type dogs–originally from shelter, –in his garage, and when he wasn’t there, but his wife was supposedly asleep, the grandchild of 2yr of age, WENT INTO THE GARAGE AND WAS MAULED TO DEATH BY THE DOGS!!!!! ONLY A COMPLETE IDIOT WOULD EVEN KEEP 3 DOGS LIKE THAT IN ONE PLACE!! EVEN IF HE DIDN’T GO TO JAIL, HE SHOULD HAVE FOR SHEER STUPIDITY!! 2 other dogs were in backyard–animal control killed all dogs on the property (at least the 5 alleged pitbull types..)
C’mon people–we see idiocy every day in the news stories involving dogs!!!!!!!!!!
If dog rescue claims they own the dog and you don’t, even when you buy it, forget it. They cannot own the dog if they sold it to you, but they will say they do. They would have to execute a lien contract and they don’t. There can’t be two owners unless they claim they own it at same time, and if they bothered to do that, RUN as fast as you can because they are nut jobs and would sue you to get the dog.(There is case law on this happening)
IF you really WANT a “rescued” dog, make sure that you don’t need to alter it. If it’s already altered, fine. Otherwise, they can sue you to get it back because you didn’t alter it.
Shelters may have some “ok” dogs, BUT since they don’t really know anything themselves about the dogs, why would you want such a dog when you don’t know anything at all about it–and when they are returned to shelters often at 50-60% rate? That means those poor animals might have 5-8 homes which is very stressful. (Some of the animals they just kill if they are sick/or returned too many times.)
If you MUST get a shelter dog, don’t pick one that has a known disease or is old. It will only cause you great harm when it becomes sicker and cost huge amounts of money. Of course if you’re extremely wealthy and like to suffer, go ahead.
If you insist on obtaining an actual APBT (American Pitbull Terrier)– if it was bred correctly, it absolutely will be animal aggressive. If you get a mixed APBT/you don’t know what it’s mixed with—be extremely careful as temperament could be ANYTHING. Best to prepare it MIGHT be animal aggressive or even people aggressive just in case. If you know nothing of pitbulls/purebred pits/APBT/other pit breeds–purebreds— a word to the wise….do not get one from a shelter or breeder. Just don’t get one because you may regret it. They are extremely strong, smart dogs. Only proven breeders with bulls that show no animal or people aggression over many years of litters should be considered, if at all.
Even if watered down, some dogs are just animal aggressive in some circumstances–the breeds that are guardians and livestock are more wary and may tend to be more protective. That is why people buy “Goldens” and useless small dogs –they usually could never handle larger dogs or dogs that might get out of hand. If you have never seen dogs fight or had to break up dogs fighting, beware–since even 3 dogs getting into a scuffle (non pitbulls) will usually scare most owners.
Most of the bullshit published by animal rights/rescues is all false. They love to use propaganda and know nothing about animal husbandry or how puppies are born/taken care of. In fact we know of shelters in Northern CA that kill puppies when born because they ARE either pitbull or they think they are. (They won’t tell you they do it, but we know they have done it.) They figure that’s just one less adult pit they will have to kill down the line, we guess? Had the puppies been a very small breed they would have kept the puppies and sold them for more money outside of the shelter. Yeah–it’s called
Rescue RACKET RETAILING.
They aren’t fooling us.
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN…
BUY A DOG FROM A BREEDER— NOT A RESCUE!!!
And don’t buy a puppy or dog until and unless you have done plenty of research and homework on the subject. You will know far more and even save a life. AR sites do not contain facts, they have propaganda…learn to know the difference!!
PETA, HSUS, ASPCA—PROPAGANDA. THEIR RELATED VETS—PROPAGANDA. THEIR RELATED SITES (FOOD, DISEASE, HOW TO CARE FOR ANIMALS)--MOSTLY PROPAGANDA. IF A SITE CONSTANTLY WANTS DONATIONS–MOSTLY PROPAGANDA. IF THEY WANT $$ DONE MONTHLY–DOUBLE PROPAGANDA.
IF THEY TELL YOU NOT TO BUY A DOG, PROPAGANDA. IF THEY TELL YOU ONLY TO FEED $75./A BAG DOG FOOD, PROPAGANDA. IF THEY CLAIM ALL SALES OF DOGS MUST BE RESCUE/SHELTERS–DOUBLE PROPAGANDA. IF YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND HOW PROPAGANDA WORKS, LOOK IT UP. IT IS NOTHING NEW, HITLER USED PROPAGANDA SO EVERYONE WOULD BELIEVE IN KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE.
TO BEAT ANIMAL RIGHTS, PEOPLE MUST BECOME SMARTER, DON’T TRUST FACEBOOK, YAHOO OR TWITTER–RESEARCH YOURSELF. IF YOU’RE TOO LAZY TO RESEARCH, YOU ARE DEFINITELY TOO LAZY TO OWN A DOG, MUCH LESS A SHELTER DOG.